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  • eidoloneidolon
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      我去商务中国看了一下,他的论坛主机300m标价竟然是2400元。这是怎么回事啊?

      eidoloneidolon
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        文学性,独创性

        对我而言就是这么两点。:D

        回复至: 老头子复出正式贴! #27855
        eidoloneidolon
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          桀!

          回复至: [zt]"专业作家的烂小说" #27678
          eidoloneidolon
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            再转:合作者

            Atlanta Nights – Contributors
            Chapter 1. Sherwood Smith
            2. James D. Macdonald
            3. Sheila Finch
            4. Charles Coleman Finlay
            5. Julia West
            6. Brook West
            7. Adam-Troy Castro
            8. Allen Steele
            9.
            10. Mary Catelli
            11. Andrew Burt
            12a. Victoria Strauss
            12b.
            13. Vera Nazarian
            14. Sean P. Fodera
            15.
            16.
            17. Charles Coleman Finlay
            18. M. Turville Heitz
            19. Kevin O’Donnell, Jr
            20. Chuck Rothman
            21. N/A
            22. Laura J. Underwood
            23. Jena Snyder
            24. Paul Melko
            25. Tina Kuzminski
            26. Ted Kuzminski
            27. Megan Lindholm and Robin Hobb
            28. Danica and Brook West
            29. Rowan and Julia West
            30. Derryl Murphy
            31. Michael Armstrong
            32. Pierce Askegren
            33. Deanna Hoak
            34. Computer generated
            35. Catherine Mintz
            36. Peter Heck
            37. M. Turville Heitz
            38.
            39. Brenda Clough
            40.
            41. Judi B. Castro
            42.

            I know that Teresa Nielsen Hayden wrote a chapter, but she won’t own up to which one it is. Some of these people are spouses, some are children, and Robin Hobb and Megan Lindholm are the same person. Obviously, I couldn’t find a site for every writer listed, which is too bad.

            回复至: [zt]"专业作家的烂小说" #27677
            eidoloneidolon
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              Science Fiction Authors Hoax Vanity Publisher

              “Atlanta Nights,” by Travis Tea, was offered a publishing contract by PublishAmerica of Frederick, Maryland.

              Washington, DC (PRWEB) January 28, 2005 — Over a holiday weekend last year, some thirty-odd science fiction writers banged out a chapter or two apiece of “Atlanta Nights,” a novel about hot times in Atlanta high society. Their objective: to write a deeply awful novel to submit to PublishAmerica, a self-described “traditional publisher” located in Frederick, Maryland.

              The project began after PublishAmerica posted an attack on science fiction authors at one of its websites (http://www.authorsmarket.net/). PublishAmerica claimed “As a rule of thumb, the quality bar for sci-fi and fantasy is a lot lower than for all other fiction…. [Science fiction authors] have no clue about what it is to write real-life stories, and how to find them a home.” It described them as “writers who erroneously believe that SciFi, because it is set in a distant future, does not require believable storylines, or that Fantasy, because it is set in conditions that have never existed, does not need believable every-day characters.”

              The writers wanted to see where PublishAmerica puts its own quality bar; if the publisher really is selective, as the company claims, or if it is a vanity press that will accept almost anything, as publishing professionals assert.

              “Atlanta Nights” was completed, any sign of literary competence was blue-penciled, and the resulting manuscript was submitted.

              PublishAmerica accepted it.

              From: PublishAmerica Aquisitions [e-mail protected from spam bots]
              Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004
              Subject: Atlanta Nights

              As this is an important piece of email regarding your book, please read it completely from start to finish. I am happy to inform you that PublishAmerica has decided to give “Atlanta Nights” the chance it deserves….Welcome to PublishAmerica, and congratulations on what promises to be an exciting time ahead.

              Sincerely,
              Meg Phillips
              Acquisitions Editor
              PublishAmerica

              The hoax was publicly revealed on January 23, 2005. PublishAmerica withdrew their offer shortly afterward:

              From: “PublishAmerica Acquisitions”
              Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005
              Subject: Your Submission to PublishAmerica

              We must withdraw our offer to publish “Atlanta Nights”. Upon further review it appears that your work is not ready to be published. There are portions of nonsensical text in the manuscript that were caught by our editing staff as they previewed the text for editing time assessment pending your acceptance of our offer.

              On the positive side, maybe you want to consider contracting the book with a vanity publisher such as iUniverse or Author House. They will certainly publish your book at a fee.

              Thank you.
              PublishAmerica Acquisitions Department

              Those who wish to see the novel, “Atlanta Nights” by Travis Tea, for themselves can find it at
              http://www.lulu.com/travis-tea

              Publication at Lulu.com is free.

              For more information about PublishAmerica and vanity presses, see:
              http://www.sfwa.org/beware/
              http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A25187-2005Jan20.html

              上面的联接似乎不能用,想要拜读这部奇书还可以到下面地址下载:http://www.cs.du.edu/~aburt/StingManuscript.pdf (575k)

              eidoloneidolon
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                嗯, 转眼间已经升到第八了。

                不过距离进入前五的阶段性目标还有一段距离。:p

                eidoloneidolon
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                  原来我也进前十了

                  回复至: 问17个问烂的问题,嗯 #27600
                  eidoloneidolon
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                      关于奇幻的一个研究文章:
                      《二次战后奇幻文学的重现:以《魔戒》为例》http://www.lucifer.hoolan.org/paper/paper/paper09.pdf(pdf文件,1.8m)

                      讲了不少理论的东西。

                      Chronicles of Narnia纳尼亚历代记是个平行世界。说它是基督教奇幻是在于它的“精神”,用隐喻的方式来讲述圣经故事。而那头叫做阿斯兰的狮子也确实是另一个世界的基督。这是一篇书评:http://www.booker.com.cn/gb/paper17/39/class001700006/hwz199124.htm只是在结尾稍微提及了一下,估计写的人也没有弄大懂这些宗教上的问题。不过网上的英文资料有很多正而八经的研究文章,有兴趣可以去找来看。

                      
                      奇幻并不一定要构造平行世界,历史奇幻都是基于现实世界的,科学奇幻或者现代奇幻也是现实世界的“改良”。这方面有我提到过的比如《创者传》alvin maker、亚瑟王系列以及《美国众神》。

                    还有,就是eidolon大人关于魔幻文学和奇幻的关系上填写的写作水平高下我有些不同意的地方。
                    玄幻的东西我也讨厌(虽然有时候不知不觉也会出现这样的错误)但是用写作水平来衡量魔幻和奇幻是否有欠妥当。
                    魔幻文学出现的时间和获得的成就绝对不在奇幻之下啊。

                      这个是我没有说清楚。已经改了。

                    btw,我也没有看过安妮的东西,夜访吸血鬼的电影貌似以前瞟过两眼 😉

                    eidoloneidolon
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                      看了江南的《虎牙》,感觉很好。

                      回复至: 问17个问烂的问题,嗯 #27596
                      eidoloneidolon
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                        一.关于奇幻本质的疑惑

                        1.什么是奇幻,即奇幻的定义?

                        奇幻的定义就是:只要你想

                        2.奇幻的英文原称是什么?

                        Fantasy

                        3.奇幻这两个字能够涵盖其英文所包涵的所有定义么?

                        4.公认的奇幻有那些流派?


                         严肃奇幻或称史诗奇幻 《魔戒》
                         剑与魔法奇幻 《黑暗精灵》
                         科学奇幻 《伤痕》
                         轻松奇幻 《宾克的魔法》  
                         罗曼史奇幻 这个我没看过
                         历史奇幻假想历史奇幻 《创者传》
                         亚瑟王奇幻 《阿法隆迷雾》
                         黑暗奇幻 没看过
                         基督教奇幻 《纳尼亚历代记》
                         ……
                        等等

                        二 奇幻之世界风是否有既定模版或不可违逆之界定

                        1.奇幻之种族是否具有其确定的体系,即人类,半兽,精灵,ect.

                        没有

                        2.奇幻之魔法是否具有其确定的体系,即元素,黑,白,ect.

                        没有

                        3.奇幻是否必须有战争描写,是否是为了讴歌战士,战争而存在?

                        不必

                        4.不流血不死亡就不是奇幻?

                        谁说的?

                        三 关于奇幻中元素的存在

                        1.奇幻中是否不允许现实元素存在,若允许,界限是什么。

                        允许。无界限

                        2.奇幻中是否不允许科技存在,若允许,其与魔法世界的平衡点在哪里?

                        允许。自圆其说。

                        3.奇幻中是否允许违背大部分人群道德水准的观念存在?若允许,其与所谓“毒草”的界限在哪里?(地雷)

                        允许。不要yy。

                        4.奇幻是否存在类似于科幻界机器人3定律之类的定律?

                        什么意思?:confused:

                        四 .奇幻与其他文学类型的关系、异同

                        1.奇幻与英雄史诗类文学关系

                        继承

                        2.奇幻与爱情文艺文学之关系

                        包容

                        3.奇幻与情色、暴力文学之关系

                        只有作品水平高下,没有流派水平高下

                        4奇幻与魔幻文学,玄幻文学之关系

                        只有作品水平高下,没有流派水平高下

                        5奇幻这一名词是否已经为学院派所肯定,收录。若尚未,为什么。(地雷)

                        学院派是专门研究纯文学作品的,他们不会关心通俗文学特别是奇幻这个舶来品

                        中篇的还真少,科幻世界出过《潜在的异族》(比你想象更黑暗)或者人民文学出版社的《地海巫师》系列,或者吉林文史出版社的《最后的独角兽》。有兴趣可以找一找科幻世界《幻想译文版》双月刊,已经出过两期。

                        回复至: 庆祝天人之境建站三周年 #27563
                        eidoloneidolon
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                          恭喜恭喜!

                          eidoloneidolon
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                            今天真是好日子啊

                            又找到个网站。
                            http://greatsfandf.com/

                            整个网站就是用来做推荐表的。
                            然则我却被它标榜的“文学性”吓倒了呀。

                            If your sensibilities suggest to you that Eric Eddison and Ernest Bramah have written better fantasy than Piers Anthony and Katherine Kurtz, or that Cordwainer Smith and M. John Harrison have written better science fiction than Robert Heinlein and Isaac Asimov, this site should be of real interest to you; if not, you are in the wrong place.

                            The books are judged as literature, not as “science-fiction books” or “fantasy books”.

                            粗略看一下,貌似果然没有大卫・艾丁斯特里・布鲁克斯之类,而上面引用的那四个反面典型好歹也算露过脸了……

                            eidoloneidolon
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                              读了jonathan carroll的Rondua三部曲,感觉在浪费时间。
                              坦率说,第一部Bones of the Moon还是不错,除了有点拖。第二部Sleeping in Flame就难以下咽了。第三步 A Child Across the Sky根本就没有看完。

                              作者喜欢从开头就离题万里。基本上到了半本书才开始正式情节。

                              也许这就是“文学性”?

                              查了下资料才发现这更多是恐怖小说,但问题在于我真的没有觉得哪里恐怖的说。

                              郁闷。

                              eidoloneidolon
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                                This listing was created in April 1994

                                去年1月更新的。资料应该还在前年之前。

                                有点旧在所难免。

                                我已经写信去问有没有新版本了。

                                回复至: 一点感慨 #27194
                                eidoloneidolon
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                                  听说过重生,但没看过
                                  我自己在追电子生涯:D

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